Please improve Deagle aim

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wasiliy
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Hello,

there is a small problem with the Deagle aim in my opinion. If you for example use shift to aim precisely and then shoot, but leave the the shift button pressed and then try to adjust your aim after the shot, the precise aim wont work any more. You will have to release shift and press it again.

Could it be fixed please?

Thx =)

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It's like this with the shotgun too. There's a bit of a delay before you can do anything and you have to wait it out.

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Jagis allegedly wrote:
It's like this with the shotgun too. There's a bit of a delay before you can do anything and you have to wait it out.

Well, since it's not an automatic weapon, a small period of time is needed to recharge it Wink SmileyBig Grin

btw DEagle does really sometime do strange things. I don't use the Aim-option in HW. I'm next to an enemy's hedgehog (so close that I can smell his fart in my nose...virtually of course Smile). And I point the pistol in his bloody head...I shoot. Nothing...Or at least nothing happened to the sucker though a big line-hole was made exactly behind his bottom...How's that? And that isn't one or two times. I've shot opponents from a very long distance...I can understand if I miss. But form 1-2mm distance...Come on...

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behind his bottom.

You do use crosshair instead of barrel to aim don't you? If you don't you'll surelly miss. I think this crap should be kinda fixed. It's really strange when a bullet flies 15 cm lower than the gun barrel is. Anyways you cannot hit hedge's feet or spikes don't try, srsly. Forgive my drunken engrish, lol.

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Didn't quite get what you mean, Dickens... Sad Smiley

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I think DrDickens ment that the bullet doesn't come out of the weapon itself. It comes out of the very middle of the hedgehog. This is confusing for aiming.

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No matter. I'm still shooting 1 (or less) distance from his bottom. Even blindfolded I can't miss! And I still can hit from a large distance. But yes, I think it kind of shoots not from the pistol but from the center of the hedgehog. Deagle!Annoyed

PS: The two smileys above this line - that's the distance I'm talking about. And I miss.

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use a piece of paper and line up the aim line with the edge of the paper...you will NEVER miss Big Grin

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1) It's dull to make that Smile Kind of spoils the pleasure of the game if you have to fight a piece of crappy toilet paper daubed on your display Big Grin

2) I said - shooting for a distance is accurate (somehow), but if you stuck your pistol in your opponent's bottom, you miss (please don't misinterpret the phrase "your pistol in your opponent's bottom" Wink Smiley).

That's obviously a mystery not only to me Geek

PS: I've just noticed the second textual smiley for geek - ":" + "unc0rr" + ":" Big Grin:D:D Cool.

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imnotsonic allegedly wrote:
use a piece of paper and line up the aim line with the edge of the paper...you will NEVER miss :D

Hey! Mind teh copyrights! Paper aim is mah invention, lol! Tiyuri promised to add a webcam support to avoid that kind of cheating, rofl.

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lol

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That's how it works. Lime line deagle's aim. Purple one is for engine acual aiming. There's nothing to do about that. Deage's just a picture.

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Hm. I wonder how messy it'd be to add an X/Y offset to a given weapon info for purposes of lining up crosshair with weapon.
Something to poke at perhaps, assuming it wouldn't confuse things further.

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It's sprite that should be fixed. All weapons should have one origin.

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unC0Rr allegedly wrote:

It's sprite that should be fixed. All weapons should have one origin.

You do realize that fixing deagle this way will end up in attaching it to the groin. Balls of steel lol. I don't see much of a problem here, i just got acustomed to using the crosshair and ignoring deagle's barrel.

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this could be fixed two ways:
1) adjust the crosshair and weapon origin
+ would not break the art
- offset in the shooting code
2) align the gun sprite to the line
+ no complications in the code
- breaks the art

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Yeah, I guess different weapon origins would be confusing *and* lead to odd play where the weapon used depended on the terrain.

But. What about maybe having the origin for all of 'em being a bit higher?

Maybe closer to top of hedgie head?

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2)
+ all weapons use same origin, so you may aim with one, and shoot with any

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