Video howto add new hw team colors.

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Hi all! Have fun with new team colors! xD

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mister M thank you very much, i ve been trying lots oftimes but never succeed o_0

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no problems xD

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This is a really stupid idea.

Because the colours don't exist in the other person's UI, they have no clue what they are on startup and see weird setups of allied teams.
Also, many colours are selected with no thought for distinctiveness, resulting in teams that people can't tell apart,
an unpleasant surprise on startup. Now some people feel that way, depending on their monitor colour quality/gamma, about the default set.
But at least they can see the colours and request a different one.

If you think you have a set of 9 *distinctive* colours that aren't too hard on the eyes that are better than the current
ones that were more or less split between mikade's suggestions and channel vote, then post them for 0.9.18.

Otherwise, don't screw up the game for others. If enough people start trying to break the colours, I suppose it is possible to start enforcing the set on the game server side...

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nemo allegedly wrote:

This is a really stupid idea.

Because the colours don't exist in the other person's UI, they have no clue what they are on startup and see weird setups of allied teams.
Also, many colours are selected with no thought for distinctiveness, resulting in teams that people can't tell apart,
an unpleasant surprise on startup. Now some people feel that way, depending on their monitor colour quality/gamma, about the default set.
But at least they can see the colours and request a different one.

If you think you have a set of 9 *distinctive* colours that aren't too hard on the eyes that are better than the current
ones that were more or less split between mikade's suggestions and channel vote, then post them for 0.9.18.

Otherwise, don't screw up the game for others. If enough people start trying to break the colours, I suppose it is possible to start enforcing the set on the game server side...

Thanx for your voice of truth nemo Punch!
Personally I find it unfair when someone ignore the rules of the rest of our community. I have a few games online when setting colours in lobby had no results in game, because the room owner was using his recompiled application binary Annoyed

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relax guys, all fine.

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m110h allegedly wrote:

relax guys, all fine.

All fine would be you pulling the video and not encouraging people to break the game, possibly forcing a server-side change to prevent broken clients.

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Perhaps it would be best for the community if this thread was deleted. I can think of no reason to keep this thread when it would only cause damage to us legitimate players and force the developers to make sweeping changes.

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Guys maybe u are right but mister M did this to make us a favour, not for bein an ashole and screw up the game, so dont be like this with him :s and please if you dont want this kind of stuff please add MORE colours next version, i remember grey and some kind of green which were cool in ancient versions, dont delete them and none will try to create new colours- just my humble opinion

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bufon allegedly wrote:
Guys maybe u are right but mister M did this to make us a favour, not for bein an ashole and screw up the game, so dont be like this with him :s and please if you dont want this kind of stuff please add MORE colours next version, i remember grey and some kind of green which were cool in ancient versions, dont delete them and none will try to create new colours- just my humble opinion

I realize that m110h is not trying to cause trouble but my point still stands. Regardless of intent I do not think we should keep a thread that could possibly forcing a major rewrite of HW code.

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bufon allegedly wrote:
Guys maybe u are right but mister M did this to make us a favour, not for bein an ashole and screw up the game, so dont be like this with him :s and please if you dont want this kind of stuff please add MORE colours next version, i remember grey and some kind of green which were cool in ancient versions, dont delete them and none will try to create new colours- just my humble opinion

I realize that m110h is not trying to cause trouble but my point still stands. Regardless of intent I do not think we should keep a thread that could possibly forcing a major rewrite of HW code.

The problem is it is difficult to make a set of 9 colours that are easily distinguishable.
Adding shades from other sets in the past guarantees confusing colours.
Even in the current set, depending on your monitor, pink and purple are difficult to distinguish.

Grey is not really a good colour. Too dark and you can't make it out. Too light and team coloured text looks too similar to generic white text, or even pastels like light green or pink. We did fiddle w/ a lot of sets.

It is possible to make the frontend support alternate colour sets or even colour pickers, although it would require reworking things a bit.
But even if someone would put in the effort, in terms of playability I question the wisdom of it. Sometimes restrictions improve the game, like Tiy's imposition of a consistent graphical style.

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nemo allegedly wrote:

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bufon allegedly wrote:
Guys maybe u are right but mister M did this to make us a favour, not for bein an ashole and screw up the game, so dont be like this with him :s and please if you dont want this kind of stuff please add MORE colours next version, i remember grey and some kind of green which were cool in ancient versions, dont delete them and none will try to create new colours- just my humble opinion

I realize that m110h is not trying to cause trouble but my point still stands. Regardless of intent I do not think we should keep a thread that could possibly forcing a major rewrite of HW code.

The problem is it is difficult to make a set of 9 colours that are easily distinguishable.
Adding shades from other sets in the past guarantees confusing colours.
Even in the current set, depending on your monitor, pink and purple are difficult to distinguish.

Orange/tan.

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color should determine a player, not a system.

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m110h allegedly wrote:

color should determine a player, not a system.

I have no clue what that means, but fact is, you are advocating something that breaks online play. Stop it.
Or at least submit a REAL patch to implement varied colours. That would mean proper syncing of remote colour selections, and a colour wheel. Or possibly an overlay mask that does not affect the default set, so they are simply mapped to a different set of 9 when sent to the engine.

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Brown is a shitty colour here, hard to read team names ann health, and i agree pink and purple are hard to distinguish, but i remember that green type was different to current green, and grey is completely different to all the other colours already in hdw. Anywaywe have blue-purple, blue-acqua blue etc which are hard to distinguish, thats why i propose more colors to give the player the opportunity to chooso the best combination.. And dont forget the blind-color people like Soreau.. Anyway, i think a bigger selection of colours would be great to the game, and brown is the worst, just look at any game, never see anyone put brown in a highlander round, as i said before is hard to read. Hope this can help a bit for the development of this wonderful game, and so sorry for my english

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nemo allegedly wrote:

If you think you have a set of 9 *distinctive* colours that aren't too hard on the eyes that are better than the current
ones that were more or less split between mikade's suggestions and channel vote, then post them for 0.9.18.

I totally agree with nemo.
By the way I have 9 colors for 9.18 (By name and in RGB format.)
Red, 216 75 35
Blue, 10 75 231
Yellow, 244 224 81
Green, 101 200 77
Orange, 206 137 62
Purple, 169 46 222
Fuchsia, 183 85 115
Sky Blue, 34 179 234
Grey, 133 133 133

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Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin great

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bufon allegedly wrote:

Brown is a shitty colour here, hard to read team names ann health, and i agree pink and purple are hard to distinguish, but i remember that green type was different to current green, and grey is completely different to all the other colours already in hdw. Anywaywe have blue-purple, blue-acqua blue etc which are hard to distinguish, thats why i propose more colors to give the player the opportunity to chooso the best combination.. And dont forget the blind-color people like Soreau.. Anyway, i think a bigger selection of colours would be great to the game, and brown is the worst, just look at any game, never see anyone put brown in a highlander round, as i said before is hard to read. Hope this can help a bit for the development of this wonderful game, and so sorry for my english

Heh. The brown mikade had initially proposed was even darker. I lightened it :-p
Depends on your monitor gamma I guess.

Adding more colours is likely to cause even more hard-to-distinguish ones.

Like I said, if someone wants to do that, they should either change the frontend to support arbitrary properly synced lists of colours
orrr allow a player to create an overlay mask of 9 colours to replace the existing ones. That way if the frontend gets red, it can display grey for that player only.
It'd be grey in the demo too, but, eh, that's their problem :-p

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