Underwater theme - let's discuss it!

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Ok, we all saw this screenshot on the main page, right? This one:

Probably it's the hottest theme right now, I think it is, or... will be. I thought about it and have three suggestions:

1. Hedges should be a little blueish, they're underwater, right?
2. Maybe a little lower gravity? Just a little, not like on the moon(I know we don't have moon theme).
3. When there is an explosion we see a little of fire(or sth. like fire, it's red, orange, and so on), that falls down. I think underwater there should be bubbles that goes up.

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alzen allegedly wrote:
2. Maybe a little lower gravity? Just a little, not like on the moon(I know we don't have moon theme).

Well, Earthrise isn't a moon theme, but it is a space theme, right?
One question- water level rising on sudden death?

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Well, Earthrise isn't a moon theme, but it is a space theme, right?

You're right! Didn't think about it, it should have lower gravity also(but much lower than underwater theme imo).

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One question- water level rising on sudden death?

Yeah, I thought what they will do about the water below. Maybe someone will post the answer here.

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I keep thinking of paradox: hedges are underwater already, so wat happens to them when they fall down? I think theme uses blank water image so hedges just seem to go in the deep.

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The second picture has water in water- waves at the bottom.
BTW, it would be great if the waves in all themes had waves like the top ones...

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@alzen:
1) As far as I know, game doesn't allow to change hedgehogs colors. We have plans for scuba gear hats, though Wink Smiley
2) Not possible right not; maybe unCorr will allow themes to change that, maybe no.
3) Read 1 and 2 :P

@everyone
Right now hedges banish into deep dark waters, ie, background fades to black and water below is black too. Tiyuri played with the idea of seaweed and didn't like. I didn't come up with another idea that satisfied us so... it's black for now.
If anybody suggests something good, we will try Smile

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See? Starting the topic is a good idea, they showed some more of underwater theme Big Grin.

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BTW, it would be great if the waves in all themes had waves like the top ones...

It wouldn't in my opinion. I like them on the top in one theme, in others I prefer normal water.

Palewolf allegedly wrote:
@alzen:
1) As far as I know, game doesn't allow to change hedgehogs colors. We have plans for scuba gear hats, though Wink Smiley
2) Not possible right not; maybe unCorr will allow themes to change that, maybe no.
3) Read 1 and 2 :P

And you think answers for first and second questions answer the third one? Big Grin I don't, maybe second one does, partly.

btw. scuba gear hats? How will they look with other hats at the same time? I don't like the idea, I think that if theme can have different water, it can also have different hedges bitmap.

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If anybody suggests something good, we will try Smile

Waving sand maybe? You know, after all, there is sand at the bottom of the sea. Please tell me what do you think?

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harmless911 allegedly wrote:
BTW, it would be great if the waves in all themes had waves like the top ones...

It wouldn't in my opinion. I like them on the top in one theme, in others I prefer normal water.

I mean these waves:

Should replace the waves from other themes.

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BTW, it would be great if the waves in all themes had waves like the top ones...

It wouldn't in my opinion. I like them on the top in one theme, in others I prefer normal water.

I mean these waves:
http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hwarsseacopybh1.png
Should replace the waves from other themes.


Won't happen

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Tiyuri allegedly wrote:
harmless911 allegedly wrote:
harmless911 allegedly wrote:
BTW, it would be great if the waves in all themes had waves like the top ones...

It wouldn't in my opinion. I like them on the top in one theme, in others I prefer normal water.

I mean these waves:
http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hwarsseacopybh1.png
Should replace the waves from other themes.


Won't happen

Well, they look so much better than the normal waves...

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harmless911 allegedly wrote:
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It wouldn't in my opinion. I like them on the top in one theme, in others I prefer normal water.

I mean these waves:
http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hwarsseacopybh1.png
Should replace the waves from other themes.


Won't happen

Well, they look so much better than the normal waves...

They dont fit the bottom of the map at all

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Tiyuri allegedly wrote:
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Won't happen

Well, they look so much better than the normal waves...

They dont fit the bottom of the map at all

Did you understand me correctly?
Replace these:
http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hedgewavescopyuu9.png
With these:
http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hwarsseacopybh1.png

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yes i understand you completely, they do not fit the bottom of the map at all

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well anyways, no offense, but this
http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hedgewavescopyuu9.png
looks ugly- at least smooth it out!

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it already has been smoothed out, that information is on the front page

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I agree with Tiyuri, I also prefer the old ones.

Tiyuri allegedly wrote:
it already has been smoothed out, that information is on the front page

Tiyuri, may you show us the new, smoothed water, some screenshot maybe? Here, palewolf told me about new water but didn't show any screenshot. When I look at the latest news, I try to see difference in water, but those screenshots are too small to see it.

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zOMG!! I see gradients! What on earth had happened to the ink&paint style? I mean i like gradients, but what about the HWSS? Tiyuri always says that gradients fail to fit, but now they are using it! Oh noes, i don't know what to do now, i'm in panic!..

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http://i37.tinypic.com/nwd26r.png
Look carefully, they are antialiased.

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Here you go:

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cool Smile

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DrDickens allegedly wrote:
zOMG!! I see gradients! What on earth had happened to the ink&paint style? I mean i like gradients, but what about the HWSS? Tiyuri always says that gradients fail to fit, but now they are using it! Oh noes, i don't know what to do now, i'm in panic!..

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What gradients are you talking about

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I still don't like it...

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Tiyuri
Oh, i mean the whole style is about solid shapes, no diffusion, but the bubbles on the dolphin map have diffused color filling. I just want to say wheter the criteria has changes, 'cause:

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- Bold Outlines (usually 2-4px in width)
- Cartoon style shading
- No Gradients on foreground objects
- Bold Colours
- Shading depth is usually 2-4 colours deep
- Well defined shapes

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Tiyuri allegedly wrote:
DrDickens allegedly wrote:
zOMG!! I see gradients! What on earth had happened to the ink&paint style? I mean i like gradients, but what about the HWSS? Tiyuri always says that gradients fail to fit, but now they are using it! Oh noes, i don't know what to do now, i'm in panic!..

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What gradients are you talking about

I think he means the bubbles.

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but the bubbles

Yup, I do.

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but the bubbles

Yup, I do.

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