It looks like sonic-the-hedgehog to me And is a bit "wormuxish"

I like what you've done, but you've lost one of my favourite characteristics of the 'hogs. The 'cuteness' they have, and the innocent look. When they look angry like tthat it's... odd?

Added after 5 minuts 3 seconds:
Oh, and the spikes should be the other way round (on the layers) They should be in front of eachother, not behind. Just helpin'

Why do you think "wormuxish"? and good on the basis of those comments I made this new version. The idea is to make the game even better. The intention is not to copy what others have done, but take the parameters established by tiyuri graphics and increasingly improve the look of the game.

I think it would look better if the hands weren't attached by arms.

What do you mean your hands without arms? Or separately?

Have you taken a look at these pictures resized to 32x32? Would all details still be seen then?

Taking advantage of clarifying that I do this ... Why must be as small characters? I commented in my first post regarding that ... Is it not possible that the skins had a size of 48x48? That would have two advantages: the power to enrich the visual appearance of the characters and improved gameplay.
My intention is not to criticize what has been done so far, but help ...

I don't think increased size would improve gameplay (consider wormux e.g.)

Sorry if I came to this community by giving suggestions, the truth is that I love hedgewars, but I do not settle just to play it, I want to help improve it. For now I leave this skin and I would say to me if they like and if you think it may make the game better than it already is ...

I did do a color changing mod... http://hedgewars.org/node/697
it is for 0.9.6

My Hedgehogs look better.
Sorry

Tiuri, he only added a nose...

he added a nose, changed the arms, changed the spikes, changed the eyes, changed the shape, changed the mouth and added a dark patch to his face.

Teh dark patch looks like a beard, but tiy, he's only trying to help..

Sorry, but @ 32x32px reminds me of a mix between Lisa and Homer Simpson, only with funny colors :lol:

My idea of improving the appearance of skin has nothing to do with discrediting the work of tiyuri. The game's main character is a hedgehog. The idea is that the representation that the boat has a resemblance to this, which takes its characteristics ...

Actually I feel that I have found a bad receptivity to people who want to work together to make this project continues to grow ... The idea is not using my design, but they can make good things from him and implement ...But at the beginning of the post is a version that is attached as possible tiyuri design...

Althougt your idea is far more realistic, i think Tiyuris concept is better in that situation, because the hedgehogs in the game are really small, what makes it difficult to impossible with many details.
Tiyuris concept is also more cute.:P
Nice work thought.

In fact, which I do not like is that it is a one kirby copy with spikes ... until the color is similar ... but if it can not be any change to the character no problem, try to help with other graphics ...

juanman25
He's not agree with you.

DrDickens
Did you make that?!

Josh
Err. Just some ruskies cartoon.

Something to consider is that these characters are both small, and need to be animated.
Which means a large number of details leads to a particularly messy effect when resized. Small details become single pixel details, which leads to horrible animations.

I think that calling the hedgehogs in hedgewars a "copy of kirby" is off the mark, yes they are both round, and pink. But aside from that they have very little in common. Hell there's even a kirby "hat" in the game, there would be no need for one if the hedgehogs were simply kirby copies + spikes. Because the hedgehogs retain their spikes with the kirby hat on.

I also think that modifying the hedgehogs to be "more like real hedgehogs" isn't the right way to go. Hedgehogs as an animal are somewhat devoid of attitude and style, I don't think there has ever been a cartoon or video games character based on a hedgehog that tried to realisticly take on a hedgehogs characteristics. Take a look at sonic, beyond the spikes you wouldn't guess he's a hedgehog at all. He looks nothing like one.

If someone manages to create a hedgehog skin, that I honestly believe to be better than my own, and they also are willing to create the LARGE number of animation frames that I have created for them (and am continuing to create), redraw the frontend and the website to match the new art. Redraw the weapons menu. Redraw the maps that use the hedgehogs. etc, then I will honestly set my art aside and use their own.

Until then, you're probably better of working on another aspect of the graphics.

I think you need to understand the vast amount of work that has gone into these characters.
To redesign them you need to:

1. Come up with a design that is better, I think the current one isnt.
2. Redraw every single frame of animation in the game, there are LOTS
3. Redraw all the weapons to fit the new hedgehogs, with your long snout perhaps the shotgun will be covered up and look terrible? perhaps they wont be in the right position. etc
4. Redraw every single hat in the game to fit the new hedeghogs
5. Redraw the frontend which has a lot of pictures of the hedgehogs in it
6. Redraw the new website (which will be implemented this week), which has hedgehogs on it
7. Redraw the maps that contain the hedgehogs

So that's why I'm having trouble taking this thread seriously, especially considering we've not yet passed point #1

I think that Tiyuri's hedgehogs are nice and new, I don't see why this thread was started.

I am very happy to answer a well-founded as this. You're right about most of the points, that's why I congratulate you. I am at your orders to help with the animation of the characters exist. It would be fabulous that the eyes continue to where the weapon is aimed, for example ...

We also try to help in other aspects of design that may be deficient. It would be great to do a list in the section of graphics and audio of those graphics that need to be improved.

Excuse my critical point and continue to improve this game is excellent!

Tiyuri

juanman25
That's more like it. Maybe we could do with some new themes and maps, if you would.
If not, theres always the odd bit's here and there, like weapon design.. (maybe? You'd have to clear things up with Tiyuri/unC0Rr for that one)
Or of course, HATS! :D