New Hedgewars Sudden Death Music
Tue, 2025-03-04 12:28
Greetings! I've made a new Sudden Death music for Hedgewars. I'll be glad if you'll add it!
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-w3XtV6YCnhxuIGUsj4BWkJaNBHDOKb_?usp=sharing
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The music is pretty dramatic for a cartoon-style game. I think maybe TOO dramatic for my taste. Also pretty short (54 seconds). From the style, it also doesn't have the same "feel" like the other tracks. It is very hard to explain, I'm not a musics expert, so all I can do is describe my vague feelings (sorry).
That's just my personal opinion, I wonder what the others think (especially sheepluva). If the others like it, I won't stand in the way of including this track in the game.
By the way, most of the music in Hedgewars is already original, and we're very proud of that. The Sudden Death music is a rare exception.
Hi, I am a Hedgewars developer.
Alright, I get it now. But now I don't know what to do about that...
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If the other devs won't approve the music, I will stop further promotion of this song as a replacement for the current Sudden Death theme, and I'll just leave it as a free-to-use song.
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About the "dramatic" part, well, isn't being dramatic and action-packed the whole point of Sudden Death? Here's a canon track example from Worms W.M.D.(yes, I am well aware that Hedgewars devs are not huge fans when it comes to the canon Worms series and their comparison with Hedgewars): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF21tlmG1rk
As you can hear, the Worms series primarily focuses on the drama and action in their own Sudden Death design, with most tracks putting the funky jams aside during Sudden Death (the track from Worms Revolution being a known exception, mixing both action and funk together). While normal theme atmosphere is commonly grim in Worms Armageddon/World Party, the Sudden Death tracks are a notorious outlier that is mostly consistent in canon Worms games.
As such, I see nothing wrong with the proposed Sudden Death track change being dramatic or action packed, even with my own lack of musical expertise.
EDIT: BTW, aren't you already aware that the current Sudden Death track lasts about the same length as the new proposed one, Wuzzy? The Hitman edit lasts for 50 seconds, the new track lasts for 5 seconds more (totaling at 55).
Hi Parrot_GamesGG!
Seems like I'm late to the party, sorry!
I like the track and the issues I noticed are minor and fixable.
One is the volume, but I'll have to check in-game if the current volume (which seems slightly lower as other tracks) actually adds to the atmosphere.
Also I agree with Wuzzy that it's very dramatic, however I personally find that it being dramatic appropriate.
It's an Sudden Death theme and supposed to convey that the pressure is ON.
The current SD theme is also somewhat dramatic (although "lighter" in mood I guess).
Back then I chose to use that track, hoping somebody with an actual taste and talent in music will eventually be annoyed enough and come up with something original and better.
This long-yearned-for moment seems to be right now :P
The second issue is, that it could loop a little bit better (maybe add a slide fade-in at the beginning?).
However, I've tested this only in desktop music players so far yet.
Maybe it sounds perfectly fine in-game.
I'll see if I can test it in-game on the weekend and if I can throw it onto DLC, if that's okay with you.
By now we're very used to the old Sudden Death Theme, so a change will seem "off" at first (which is why I partially understand Wuzzy's feelings on this).
The DLC would be the perfect place to just let people apply it their current installations of the game and to see how people like it in the long run.
If the track sounds good in-game and there is no significant resistance, I see personally see no reason why this couldn't be included in the offical release.
Cheers!
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Hello I can add the beginning fade ro the song. I'm also okay with a DLC test, that you offered. I'll notify you as soon as I'll make the changes to the song!
Have a nice day,
DoubRasp (aka Parrot GamesGG)
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That's actually a heartwarming moment of truth, that has finally happened. First, I was thinking, that my song will be added, then I thought it won't be, but I wasn't losing hope yet. Then, I've got a response from Wuzzy, I kinda started losing my hope on this event happening, but I decided to wait for another developer to respond. After about half a month, it finally happened! I'm really happy because of that, so thank you sheepluva for answering with your own opinion on my work!
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