[Theme] Antarctic

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These are some images of this new theme I drew: Antarctic

I think the style in which i drew the animals is not adequate to the Hedgewars particular one so I understand if it cant be accepted and I m ready to remove them and draw others.
Other than that there are some problems with the terrain and the sky, they are not perfectly seemless ( you can see the square of the terrain) and I dont know how to fix that, maybe you can help.

Here are the SVG files:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c934q66sun6w4s9/AACqDkgFtZJRAP91TYZnN52ta?dl=0

I would love this theme to became official so please tell me what s wrong with it so I can adjust it.

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V2: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ivy5b26hocwvg3k/Antarctic_v2.hwp?dl=0

Changes:
fixed seams sky (thanks to alfadur)
fixed seams land texture (thanks to alfadur)
adjusted horizont to seem less opaque and added red/orange shading
fixed water color to be more seamless

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Yay! A new theme.

Are you sure you fixed the seams in v2? They still seem to be there according to screenshots. Can you please verify that your download is correct?

I don't like the signs (English text). IMO themes should generally be language-neutral. Hedgewars is a multilingual game, after all.

That having said, I think the general theming matches the Hedgewars style well (except the penguins), it just needs some fixes. It would be a good addition for DLC. Yeah, the penguins look "too realistic" for Hedgewars. But it's definitely OK for DLC. A red evening sun is a nice touch.

Can you please upload the theme to some other website without proprietary JavaScript infestation?

If you fix these problems, and also choose to release your work under a free content license license, I think there's a very good chance this theme goes right into DLC.

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Thanks Wuzzy I will fix those problems, I would like to know whats wrong with the theme for it being accepted to Hedgewars inclusion (not DLC) like the Beach theme. I know at the moment it isnt good enough but I'm ready to fix the problems even if it means to redraw all the objects.
Of course I accept to release it under free license, you can choose which one.

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Antarctic V3: https://www.dropbox.com/s/c4bd7hbu6tlkozy/Antarctic_v3.hwp?dl=1

Changelog:
Removed sky seams (thanks to alfadur)
Removed yellow and green tool cause I thought there are too many climbing objects
Added some new sprays
Removed signs
Redrawed penguin to look more cartoonish
Added another penguin
Added Orca object
Adjusted shade to horizont

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Thank you. I need to remember the "dl=1" trick. Big Grin
This is going somewhere, I like where it is going!

Anyway:

List of bugs:
- The water color doesn't transition nicely (still a semi-visible "seam")
- Water color is broken in Sudden Death (blue and purple)
- Wrong HWP format: The "Antarctic_vX" folder needs to be within a "Themes" folder
- theme.cfg has several redundant fields (redundant because it's just default values): sd-music, fallback-sd-music, water-animation, sd-water-animation

What I don't like:
- I don't like the new rope. It's just a red rope. I think it's confusing because red is also a clan color. I think the default rope is better (btw: But I think optional clan-colored ropes would be a nice gimmick)
- I don't like the background in Sudden Death. Try to experiment with sd-tint, it can do wonders!

As for licesing: Are you OK with Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 4.0?

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Thanks Wuzzy, I will try to fix those things. Yes that license is fine.

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Antarctic v4: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vmu37pb3snr8y20/Antarctic_v4.hwp?dl=1

All the problems should have been fixed, I chosed a red tint for sudden death background, it looked cool for me.

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Antarctic v4 has been added to DLC! Nice work! Smile

IMPORTANT: You have to download the theme from DLC first to use it online. I have changed the HWP file name and I used a PNG optimizer to reduce the file (there's no content change). Theme will still show up as “Antartic_v4”, of course.

One final question: Do you still have the SVGs?

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Thanks Wuzzy. Those Svg files were broken, I will share the working ones in the following days.

If you could explain what is this theme missing or what is wrong with it for being included in the official game I could try to adjust it to make it fit the standards.

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not only hammer makes it crash.
Also RC, bird, ballgun, and any weapon I guess?

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Yea most weapons cause the game to crash in this theme. Idk what causes it

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What is the error message?
Can you send me your game0.log from your User directory?

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Okay, thanks. I must have screwed up the files indeed while compressing them. I actually accidentally changed the PNG format along the way, and Hedgewars doesn't like that. Big Grin

Anyway, I have uploaded a new, hopefully fixed version. Can you please download this and tell me if it works?:

https://hedgewars.org/download/packs/Theme_AntarcticTEST_v5.hwp [EDIT: FILE REMOVED]

(This is a temporary link.)

If it's OK, I'll updating DLC.

Note to myself: Do NOT use zopflipng for compressing Hedgewars PNGs. Ugh!

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Edit: I have uploaded the fixed version 5 to DLC. Please download it again. Delete the old broken version 4, it's no good. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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No problem and thanks

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Wuzzy the Antarctic v5 is still broken. explosions cause game to crash.
here is the game log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihq3d91fhzgscwc/game0.log?dl=1

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OK, please try:
https://hedgewars.org/download/packs/Theme_AntarcticTEST_v6.hwp

I noticed LandBackTest.png was a PNG color map that I somehow overlooked. Hedgewars doesn't like that, at least on some OSes.

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Yea this version seems to works. Thanks.

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Antarctic_v6 is now online on DLC!
Thanks for verifying.

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If you could explain what is this theme missing or what is wrong with it for being included in the official game I could try to adjust it to make it fit the standards.

I'm sorry, I'm currently not accepting any new themes at the moment. Unless they are really exceptional and also unique. The other core developers might disagree, so this is only my stance. With “unique” I mean they add something that no other theme has explored.
The reason why I am reluctant to adding new themes is because we already have a ton of them.

First, Antarctic is not really unique, because we already have two snowy themes (Snow and Christmas). I don't want to fill the themes list with similar themes. But we might argue about that …

Second, personally I think the penguins don't really fit into Hedgewars, they are not really comic-like. I mean they look too "serious". They don't look bad, they just don't look comic-like to me.

That having said, I think this theme is super fine as-is. Just not for official. But it's OK, that's what DLC is for. For players it's only a few clicks away.

PS: If you want to help Hedgewars directly, we have other areas where new artwork is much more needed and appreciated. Forts, for example; our fort count is quite low at the moment. Or graves. See here if you're interested. But no pressure. Smile

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Okok I understand. I will look up to these art request and maybe draw some graves, I dont think I m enough skilled to draw forts. Thanks

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That's great to hear, I'm looking forward to what you will create.

But if you later decide this is too much for you, that's okay. Hedgewars is 100% a volunteer project, after all.

I'm already happy to see that we still have *some* community activity, and community contributions keep this place alive, even if it is "just" for DLC. Not much happens in these forums otherwise. :-/

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Thanks. I love this game and contribuiting to it its a pleasure.

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