Which weapon would you most like to see next?

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The Bowling Ball looks really unusual and should be considerated IMHO.

A few questions about the Bowling Ball:

  1. How would it exactly roll? Permanently sticking to a surface like the cake?

    BTW, that might be great stuff - imagine many hogs may got hit, but with a small damage for each one!

  2. How would hogs react when hit? Just bouncing off, but not high? (Sorry, that's obvious)

And eventally:

My suggestion: one piece of this stuff should still be in the inventory in case (as you've written) it rolls into the water.

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Hmm.. I've changed my mind about some of this stuff, It will stick to the surface, and it can explode after a few seconds. I can't name a single weapon (Rope and Saucer don't count) the doesn't explode.
The person who wrote the post below stole my idea

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-Bowling Attack (The black thing in the image lol)
Use 1:Sends a bowling ball rolling at a hedgehog (Yes, the ones in front of you.) and strikes all hedgehogs in front but after 10 seconds it blows up
*Small Explosion
*Faster than "birthday awsome cake".
*Makes about 10-15 each hedgehog.
*20 damage when it blows up
*Can or can't climb walls

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Full version link
http://www.hedgewars.org/node/2143

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Link to da Imagehttp://i61.servimg.com/u/f61/12/21/05/81/weapon11.png

-Bowling Attack (The black thing in the image lol)
Use 1:Sends a bowling ball rolling at a hedgehog (Yes, the ones in front of you.) and strikes all hedgehogs in front but after 10 seconds it blows up
*Small Explosion
*Faster than "birthday awsome cake".
*Makes about 10-15 each hedgehog.
*20 damage when it blows up
*Can or can't climb walls

Use 2:Places 9 bolwing pins in front of you and depending on how much you charge that will be the distance they will be sent flying, after falling into the ground the explode/work as normal mines.
*5 damage each

-WaveGun
The blueish version of the rocket launcher [Just take a look at the image])
Use 1:Sends 3 energy waves at the enemy hedgehog (High terraind amage)
*
Wave 1(Small): 10 damage (Low damage)
Wave 2(Medium): 20 damage (Stronger than small)
Wave 3(Large): 30 damage (Ground shakes a bit/ terrain damage)
Use 2(As unique weapon found in crates only):Shoots a big wave of energy at the ground and works as an earthquake.

X-X-X-X Bubble gun instead of wavegun
Creates 5 big bubbles around the area that will trap enemy hedgehogs that will be blown (with the map current wind) into the ocean.
*The pop if they touch terrain.

-Shooting Star
Use 1:Makes a shooting star fall in the X locations causing a earthquake and massive damage!!! HAHAHAHAHA!
*Big terrain damage
*25-175 damage depending on impact distnace
Use 2:Makes 7 shooting stars fall into your enemies!
*15 damage per shooting star.

-Critical Mass
1 Use per game only (Found in crates)*
Blow up your hedgehog making a big energy xplosion and sends explosive thunders to other hedgehogs.
*500 damage (1 hit KO)!
*Thunders make 25 damage
*Compeltely deletes all terrain following a Y-coordinate

-Clone
Use 1: Makes a clone of your hedgehog (only if you have already lost a hedgehog before) and divides both hedgehog's hp by 2.
Example: You have a 100 hp hedgehog... you clone it and now you have 2 hedgehogs with 50 hp
*Already specified

Its a loong list... but its awsome.

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Do mines annoy you?
I have a weapon idea called the "defuser Knife" and You can throw it at mines or explosive barrels and defuse them.

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The hog can hit a mine with the knife and it defuses or turns the mine into a dud the bounces of it and sticks in the ground. May mildly hurt hogs.

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In my opinion "seduction" is too weak in hedgewars (very difficult to aim, only little effect). For this reason nobody uses it, which is a great pity. There must be a way to improve it. One example could be that every hedgehog in a certain angle is seduced. This increases its effect and makes it easier to aim.
What do you think about it? You may have better suggestions.

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I agree that its use is limited, but it isn't totally useless. Quite often, you can stand on top of a hog and use seduction when fire punch or whip would it in the wrong direction.

Also, I quite like having one or two "weaker" weapons. It means people don't consider them so much, making opportunities to use them a bit more frequent.

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claymore allegedly wrote:

I agree that its use is limited, but it isn't totally useless. Quite often, you can stand on top of a hog and use seduction when fire punch or whip would it in the wrong direction.

Also, I quite like having one or two "weaker" weapons. It means people don't consider them so much, making opportunities to use them a bit more frequent.

I agree with you. But I also think that it should be easier to aim with this weopon. I allways fail if I dont stand on the other hog or use the laser.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_grenade

and its gas make hedgehogs ill until their hp reaches 1 or until they'll find a healt crate

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Hate to divert from the bowling ball for a sec, but I'm new and I had an idea.

Bulls. The hog throws a crate or some other container, from which bulls emerge and running in both directions (probably four bulls, two each way) that stampede any and all hogs in the way.

The risk, of course, is being in the way of said bulls, or aiming incorrectly and having all the bulls fall into the water or just stampede aimlessly (perhaps for a limit of five seconds, after which they do a minor, hog-just-died-and-blows-itself-up type explosion) without hitting any of the hogs. I've even got a name for it.

Pamplona Bomb. Thoughts?

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I like all that ideas xD. Especially the rollin ball.

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How about a flame thrower.

It will work like flame strike but sprays outward from the hog, at the weapon angle, for a few seconds, creating a fountain of flame that curves downward.

The flame is wind directed so hogs will need to be very careful about pointing it.

Will eat away ground, and create voids in cliff faces. Great for spraying HOGS that are below you
if you use the wind to catch them.

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Another idea -- Fire works. hog sets a launcher on the ground, at a specific angle and moves off, then mortar fires straight up and at a fixed hight explodes, releasing a shower of flames that is wind blown.

If the fireworks hits something, before exploding it explodes immediately at that point. In caves you could aim it at the roof above the target hog.

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Andrey allegedly wrote:

Reinforcements - 'super weapon' (aka not in defaults). A plane drops you an additional hedgehog on a parachute (gotta take wind into account).


I like this but new works have the possibility of making long playing games (like shoppa) never-ending.

However other possibilities is -- clone. hog divides into two. either with same number of points each or half (rounded up) the points of the original. Multiple clones are also a possibility.

Basically give the enemy more targets to have to deal with.

On thing I did miss from worms... Balance It balances all the points in the game equally amoungst the teams. so if you only have one 'worm' left you get lots of points while those with many 'worms' get fewer points spread amongst the 'worms'.

A hedgehog varation would be to balance by hogs rather than by teams. Players with more hogs would then have more points!

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The ball idea has another use. If the ball remains and can be picked up, you can create slightly different types of games. You need to get the ball to a goal!

Hogs can only pickup and carry the ball during their turn and then it gets dropped.
if it falls in or gets blown into water a new ball is put into the game at the center.

Games only end is all enemy hogs are kill or ball reaches you goal.

Sort of a death ball game!

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Anthony Thyssen allegedly wrote:

Another idea -- Fire works. hog sets a launcher on the ground, at a specific angle and moves off, then mortar fires straight up and at a fixed hight explodes, releasing a shower of flames that is wind blown.

If the fireworks hits something, before exploding it explodes immediately at that point. In caves you could aim it at the roof above the target hog.


i think that this is a good idea, however i can see it only being aimed at the hogs and would rarely be used strait up, due to its innacuracy

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Anthony Thyssen allegedly wrote:

How about a flame thrower.

It will work like flame strike but sprays outward from the hog, at the weapon angle, for a few seconds, creating a fountain of flame that curves downward.

The flame is wind directed so hogs will need to be very careful about pointing it.

Will eat away ground, and create voids in cliff faces. Great for spraying HOGS that are below you
if you use the wind to catch them.

There is already a flame thrower, if you build from svn (or get the build for windows, "give me head"-topic) you can test it out.

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You mean build from mercurial :-p

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I really liked this idea:

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Speed Shoes: These Red Sneakers greatly increase a hogs movement rate and give him the ability to scale walls or even climb on ceilings. This is a much enhanced version of a similar (but not very useful) item from worms.

My suggestions
A proximity mine that glues to the walls and can be thrown like a grenade.
Barrel delivery, a plane drops four or five barrels to a location. They don't explode when they fall.

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I have a suggestion! Ton Strike, basically the plane comes by and drops a 5 ton weight on a hedgehog and crushes it so its flat, making the hog completely immobile for 5 turns (One turn for each ton, Girder )

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I think you can take some weapons from game called "pocket tanks" blitwise pr,like the "stardust" weapon or "sheild" Smile Smile Smile

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or super star

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I've got a few ideas:

Boomerang: It flies kicking your target. Then goes back striking you if you haven't left you initial place. Boomerang bounces of the walls without any impact on it's speed, and also doesn't return if it hits walls on its way.

Crazy Rocket: You choose one enemy hog to which a rocket would be attached. This rocket goes somewhat straight up then it's trajectory changes continuously (so it follows some crazy lines) and at the end it blows up like some fireworks.

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All i need is a sticky grenade which would stick on the very first thing it touches instead of bouncing around like ordinary weapons

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Sticky mine is already implemented in game (Watch development diary at the main page)

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Hi guys,

Just to let you know, i read this thread constantly.

Sticky mines, hammer, poison gas, flamethrower have all now been implemented (these were recent suggestions)

I'm now thinking about the bowling ball, bulls, boomerang and fireworks, amongst others.

In terms of the suggestions above, I propose a few tweaks.

The bowling ball should be the hog itself, rolled into a ball, nice and spiky

Rather than drop a crate of bulls, what if you drop a single ball that's chained to the ground, then your weapon is replaced by a red cape, hitting fire holds it up and the bull breaks free and charges at you, hitting any hogs that may be in it's way. You'll need to jump over the bull as he reaches you or you'll be hit yourself.

I like the idea of a weapon that bounces from wall to wall, but a boomerang seems a bit odd for this purpose, could we replace it with a more suitable object?

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I like the idea of a weapon that bounces from wall to wall, but a boomerang seems a bit odd

You've got violet hedgehogs going into parallel dimensions, but a boomerang bouncing off the walls is suddenly "odd"?!?!? Just kidding. No, seriously, you could change it. Maybe for some kind of animal. It may be a monkey, a kangaroo, a rabbit or even a frog (which would do nicely).

Something about boomerang: it may work only on some spacious flat surface and go cutting through walls instead. Also if you push too hard it'll just fly away.

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hmmm a frog is interesting, if it hops and sticks to the surface of the wall it hits.. hmmhmhmhm

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hehehe nice. I'll think of some new weapons that will use living creatures. Blowing up animals with other animals... Sounds fun to me ^_^

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Spice Weasel: Strange creatures from futurama. You use one on a hedgehog, causing him jump randomly 3 times while sneezing.

You may want change sticky mines to a porcupinefish. It sticks, inflates and bam (it may also shoot spikes).

Or it may be a new weapon, Porcupinefish bomb. You tie it to the ground so it can fly in a small area. Then you blow it up somehow and it shoot spikes.

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Tiyuri allegedly wrote:

I'm now thinking about the bowling ball, bulls, boomerang and fireworks, amongst others.

In terms of the suggestions above, I propose a few tweaks.

The bowling ball should be the hog itself, rolled into a ball, nice and spiky

Yes, I like that idea (Forget the sprite i made a long time ago, that was when I used paint all the time)

One thing: maybe if it's a Hog Rolling, it could be called Bowling Attack or Spin attack.
Maybe if I get a chance I might talk to you on the IRC.
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I also like the idea of changing the Sticky Mine into Porcupinefish (Maybe call it a Puffer Mine.)

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we need something thats like cake, but explodes on impact. sort of like a watermelon bomb, but has no timer, also i think that we need another close-up item, like baseball bat, or hammer, I was thinking oar, as in boat oar, that sends the person spinning. a side effect could be that if the spinning hog hits a bomb, it explodes on impact, seniding all hoga within the explosion ratio flying. Flying

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I think we need a hog bomb. the hog flies overhead and drops hedgehogs thats explode on impact and as they fall they wave Smile

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i think we need something thats a super weapon that has to do with food, like cake, I was thinking that we should make a 'carrot drop' that has a hog in a plane fly overhead and drop carrots that explode on impact blowing up into 6 mini carrots that do 10 damage. dealing about 70 damage a carrot.I think the plane should drop 6 carrots over all, dealing about 350 damage overall. I think that, like cake, when the carrots drop the hogs make either Shocking or Big Grin

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Bubbles allegedly wrote:

i think we need something thats a super weapon that has to do with food, like cake, I was thinking that we should make a 'carrot drop' that has a hog in a plane fly overhead and drop carrots that explode on impact blowing up into 6 mini carrots that do 10 damage. dealing about 70 damage a carrot.I think the plane should drop 6 carrots over all, dealing about 350 damage overall. I think that, like cake, when the carrots drop the hogs make either Shocking or Big Grin

How bout air attack, with carrots?

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I LOOOVE the sine gun, especially with more than 9...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/53661443@N06/4957995150/

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ICE GUN as proposed to me by Action Johnny

the ice gun should not be very damaging - it should be able to do the following

1. Put out flames
2. Upon hitting water, create a temporary floating platform, perhaps one that is physics enabled to float away or break into pieces
2.A. The ice platform should last a full round, so that any hedgehog using it can get off before it melts
3. Upon hitting land, it should create a slippery area.This can be used to "skate" across flat land at increasing speed or to cause a hedgehog on a slope to slide down

*As a gun, this should work like the blowtorch, allowing movement and firing over a distance

Supplemental - grenades or an ice "shell" might make more sense, balance wise, because they would require precise hits, rather than giving the user a chance to freeze a wide area

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I would love to be able to make the pick hammer and blow torch last longer so you could play in a sand pit like mode where you could make massive under ground forts for your hogs

Palewolf sheepluva: heh, havent noticed your donate button before
sheepluva Palewolf: is more of a "for science!" thing
Palewolf sheepluva: you know, one could do a lot more money if you pulled out a photo of a hedgehog and said you would eat it unless you get 10k dollars
sheepluva lol
Sdw195 heh
sheepluva well, as I said. it's more of a science thing
Sdw195 no eat if it he got 10k dollars
sheepluva I don't expect to get more than $1 this year
sheepluva max
sheepluva xD
Sdw195 heh
Palewolf sheepluva: your loss, my way you get to get at least one decent meal XD
Sdw195 hahha
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sheepluva Palewolf: good point.. hmmmmmmm

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I still think the glider and rubber bomb should be implemented.
http://www.hedgewars.org/node/1448
http://www.hedgewars.org/node/729

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sdw195 allegedly wrote:

I would love to be able to make the pick hammer and blow torch last longer so you could play in a sand pit like mode where you could make massive under ground forts for your hogs


Look at this http://www.hedgewars.org/node/1269

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Cairo allegedly wrote:

sdw195 allegedly wrote:

I would love to be able to make the pick hammer and blow torch last longer so you could play in a sand pit like mode where you could make massive under ground forts for your hogs


Look at this http://www.hedgewars.org/node/1269

YEAH!!!!!

Palewolf sheepluva: heh, havent noticed your donate button before
sheepluva Palewolf: is more of a "for science!" thing
Palewolf sheepluva: you know, one could do a lot more money if you pulled out a photo of a hedgehog and said you would eat it unless you get 10k dollars
sheepluva lol
Sdw195 heh
sheepluva well, as I said. it's more of a science thing
Sdw195 no eat if it he got 10k dollars
sheepluva I don't expect to get more than $1 this year
sheepluva max
sheepluva xD
Sdw195 heh
Palewolf sheepluva: your loss, my way you get to get at least one decent meal XD
Sdw195 hahha
Sdw195 rolf
sheepluva Palewolf: good point.. hmmmmmmm

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another idea i had was the fire hose http://hedgewars.org/node/2379

Palewolf sheepluva: heh, havent noticed your donate button before
sheepluva Palewolf: is more of a "for science!" thing
Palewolf sheepluva: you know, one could do a lot more money if you pulled out a photo of a hedgehog and said you would eat it unless you get 10k dollars
sheepluva lol
Sdw195 heh
sheepluva well, as I said. it's more of a science thing
Sdw195 no eat if it he got 10k dollars
sheepluva I don't expect to get more than $1 this year
sheepluva max
sheepluva xD
Sdw195 heh
Palewolf sheepluva: your loss, my way you get to get at least one decent meal XD
Sdw195 hahha
Sdw195 rolf
sheepluva Palewolf: good point.. hmmmmmmm

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i would also love to be able to add less dense land back sort of like spray foam or a reverse blow torch that sparys expanding foam in to gaps

Palewolf sheepluva: heh, havent noticed your donate button before
sheepluva Palewolf: is more of a "for science!" thing
Palewolf sheepluva: you know, one could do a lot more money if you pulled out a photo of a hedgehog and said you would eat it unless you get 10k dollars
sheepluva lol
Sdw195 heh
sheepluva well, as I said. it's more of a science thing
Sdw195 no eat if it he got 10k dollars
sheepluva I don't expect to get more than $1 this year
sheepluva max
sheepluva xD
Sdw195 heh
Palewolf sheepluva: your loss, my way you get to get at least one decent meal XD
Sdw195 hahha
Sdw195 rolf
sheepluva Palewolf: good point.. hmmmmmmm

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sdw195 allegedly wrote:

i would also love to be able to add less dense land back sort of like spray foam or a reverse blow torch that sparys expanding foam in to gaps

I like the idea. Another way to add new land could be like the flame thrower but with ice. So you could spray walls of ice crystals to use them as protection or to freeze hedgehogs (to make them unable to move for a short time; this should happen to all hedgehogs that touch the ice even in later turns)

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jamei allegedly wrote:

sdw195 allegedly wrote:

i would also love to be able to add less dense land back sort of like spray foam or a reverse blow torch that sparys expanding foam in to gaps

I like the idea. Another way to add new land could be like the flame thrower but with ice. So you could spray walls of ice crystals to use them as protection or to freeze hedgehogs (to make them unable to move for a short time; this should happen to all hedgehogs that touch the ice even in later turns)


Foam is better.

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I soooomehow like that idea ... Wink Smiley

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Disintegration Ray - No effect on hogs, but can dissolve ground from a distance. Such as dissolving the ground above you that will make an enemy hog fall. No movements can be made after use, the turn will end.

Point of View Gun- from HHGttG. Just a fun weapon that will make hogs say some thing funny and releaving. Not a kill weapon.

Tesla Gun - Lighting arch over hills, must be aimed like a mortar. No wind effect, has small target area, but high damage. So your aim has to be right on.

Tidal Wave Machine - Will create a small wave that will wash away any hogs on one shore line. Wave will not go past the first shore line it hits.

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Mini Nuke - Special drop, like dynamite, but with a mushroom cloud that will damage and a horizontal pulse that will push back hogs at a certain distance. Possibly off an edge.

Fox Hole - When you have no moves, and are left out in the open, you can hunker down and take 50% less damage until your next turn. Only 1 per team per game.

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Stop Watch - That either drops like a med kit, or is in a ? box. Will add 30 seconds to your clock when used. Stored in weapos menu, or used when touched. you decide.

There is already an Additional Time utility which works just like your stopwatch.

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Sorry about that. I've only been playing on and off for a week now. I love this game, but I kill myself more than others. Brain Slug Mouth!

Ok, I finally read this whole thread. Sorry for ones that are similar to ones that have been suggested before. Didn't mean to nick anyone's idea.

Fox Hole is like Smaxx's idea for an umbrella. Tesla I saw that on the thread. Ice type guns, though that was not from me.

Once again sorry for the duplicates.

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Stating things twice or even more often isn't that bad as it shows interest in some particular idea. Wink Smiley

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